We are each born with a divine spark and no matter how painful our early lives have been, it shines within all of us. My guest on this episode is healer, Radavie Riom.
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Divine Spark with Radavie Riom
Zette Harbour: This is Love Lies Beneath. I am Zette Harbour and my very special guest today is Radavie Riom.
Radavie is an instrument of spirit and understands that we’re all here to awaken from the illusion of our human condition. I met Radavie on a networking event online and our two hearts just found each other immediately. And so it’s a real joy to share this conversation with Radavie today. Welcome.
Radavie Riom: Thank you so much.
It’s really. Juicy spicy to be with you again. Excellent. And with your audience,
we’re here to serve others and to share that whatever it is, we know what, whatever it is.
Zette Harbour: A lovely thing is we never know who’s going to catch it. And for whom even one word or one sentence might awaken something in
Radavie Riom: them. Absolutely. Absolutely.
Zette Harbour: Yes. Tell our audience about you and
Radavie Riom: Where do I start? I’m going to start from the beginning because I really want people to really get that where we are is not where we started from.And where I started from was this frightened little girl who felt different in her family and withdrawn because my mother was the greatest teacher in the beginning.
What do I mean by that? That’s where, that’s what I had to work through. My, my difficulties with her and The things she said to me as a little innocent girl, that it was frightening because as children, we are multi-dimensional we know, and we sense a lot more that we have forgotten how, when we are adults, what we already knew.
And so I was very withdrawn and I resented her alot. And what I did was to walk away as I got older, I walked away from my childhood or maybe, when I did, was hide her in the closet and just pretended she did not exist. And I never talked about my childhood, not ever with my children, nobody ever heard about my childhood, but in a mystical time.
And I call it that very mystical, I was going through a very painful relationship. At that time. I had separated from their father, my husband. And so I had this relationship that. It was like, I found my father cause consciously I was looking for my father. I thought it was perfect.
And of course I was in love with the idea, you know it, and it does it. Of course it didn’t last, it wasn’t ever meant to last. And I was devastated that I wanted to hide under the smallest little place I could find, like under the bed and in that mystical moment, my child stood in front of me eyes.
I was sad. I was shocked. What are you doing here? I said, I don’t want to see. And really said that. And for three weeks she stood there, looking me straight in my eyes. And there are times when I got very angry with her, but by the end of three weeks, no conversation occurred and knew that I had to connect her with me.
And I didn’t know how to do that. I found a woman who did massage and some other stuff that was directed to somebody from my oldest spiritual circle. And and she said, this is going to be very easy for you because you want to say. We just relax and breathe and whatever comes up in your mind, just let me know.
And I saw immediately something came up and I said, you’re really to myself. You’re really joking you want me to tell you, somebody, I really don’t know that. What came up this deep shame? And there was the other part of me that said you came here for something you cannot live without it. It was so clear that was my soul.
I think you, you are here for something, if this is what it takes, you have to. So I quietly told her about 20 minutes after she patiently was with. And I told her that I was sexually molested when I was five, because that’s what came up. And it was, seemed so ordinary to her that I said that, and I couldn’t believe that she wasn’t shocked and what happened.
And it was, this was a pivotal point. Is that my expressive. The emotions came up. I started to cry and because I wasn’t naturally intuitive and psychological in that, it’s natural for me. I went home and I knew that what I had to do was to connect my emotions to my memories. That is what needed to be done.
And so I went into my own self healing. For a long time. And what I discovered is that through the experiences of going through my, is that I got to understand the human conditioning because I knew we all have the same emotions. We just have different stories. And then became very compassionate to an on to really understand people and the psychology of it.
I think we are here very importantly to, to look at the psychology the emotions and the spiritual aspect of ourselves, because that’s what we are being. Beautiful, what a beautiful story of such a,
an awakening that’s full of such grace.
And yet I
Zette Harbour: am sure that it didn’t feel
Radavie Riom: good. It was. It’s a good thing that I was accustomed to cry.
Cause as a little girl, I used to cry a lot, but the beautiful thing is that I got to the place where. I could feel it now. I honest, I know what was happening. I was taking more into my soul’s blueprint. I was gifted the gifts that were awaiting me. We all can come in with the gifts and it was handed to me and I’d be there and to become a lot more intutitive empathy, oh my.
And I got to realize that this was my soul’s contract. This was an agreement that I had. So I had so fast forward here, going back. I said, who I am today is, I am so grateful for my mother because without the pain and without what happened to me as a child, I would never be. So share and support others in the most loving, compassionate way that I can not, because I remember I that pain and those experiences in spite of my medicine.
Absolutely. Yeah. And that’s why I really encourage people. Something happens to you as a child and you don’t lock it away. Believe me, it is my personality before I released it was not very not like I am today and my children, when they were much younger.
And how they can talk with me now about who I am today. Cause we’re really friends, but
and there’s nothing to feel ashamed about her. I don’t feel, oh my God. It’s so horrible. I understand what it’s like when we don’t release our emotional past. I understand that really well. I lived it. Oh yes. And
Zette Harbour: You’re not alone. We all either have lived it or are still
Radavie Riom: living and living it.
Absolutely. Yeah. And
Zette Harbour: I actually liked to talk about those parts of ourselves that we chop off and bury I like to think of them as
Radavie Riom: zombies and,
Zette Harbour: So I say to this part of me as a young child who has a very vulnerable mind
Radavie Riom: and
Zette Harbour: really doesn’t have a lot of resources and feels pain. And so my mind says, look, that’s painful, it’s chopped up piece off and stick it outside, just shut that front door and don’t ever let it back in, but it is a zombie in the fact that it just wanders in front of my house for the rest of my life.
And every time I open the door, it tries to rush in along with all the other zombies. And so that’s why I feel like by the time I reached, early forties, There was so much intensity of pressure, even for the smallest bit of stress, fear or pain. Cause it was as multitude of past rejected parts of myself that were pushing on this doorway, trying to come home to themselves, come home to me.
And when I learned that I could look at that zombie and say, I see. I embrace you. I appreciate you. And I love you and wrap my arms around her. And also,
Radavie Riom: yeah, that, that was
Zette Harbour: the key to restoring all those dismembered parts of myself. And you’re a hundred percent, when we don’t have access to the fullness of who we are.
Radavie Riom: We cannot live
Zette Harbour: a life that
Radavie Riom: expresses that. I lived that person. I lived that person. We both experienced that. And those disconnected parts, we’re still connected with them because that’s what is holding the pain. And if we’re we, the interesting thing is we have embodied all of what we have.
Put aside those zombies, the memories, I still imprinted here in our bodies. It’s really funny. And so one of the beautiful things is that when I work with my clients and I go back to the past and find a piece that is still left behind this. And integrated that’s the child. And then Blessed that they can speak to me and I can see call that other is as a child and some of them are pretty awesome more than their level and and bring them back into full integration.
And I want to be sure that I hear them. That part of them can have conversations with that smaller part when they leave and to continue doing that and offering the love that they never had. So that, that is yeah. And they come on by easily for me, for some reason. Oh, that’s powerful work so that
Zette Harbour: when you come to you, that’s the kind of work you’re able to do with them.
You help them restore their connection. As you say, we still have that connection. We feel it’s almost like Phantom limb pain. And so you help them bring that back home to themselves. And I’m curious if you find this too. All those parts, particularly because they are from that really original, beautiful, childlike self.
When we bring them home to us and restore them. That’s where so much of our creative and vibrant energy actually
Radavie Riom: comes from. Doesn’t it? Absolutely. And what are the things are that wanted to the own? Is that when you find yourselves? No, because many times people are saying what’s my soul’s purpose.
And I commonly say, what did you love to do as a child? And many times I’ll just go with that. However, when you feel a passion about something that you can’t put it down, that’s your soul’s agreement. This is what your soul wants you to experience. And that’s where your creativity and your passion comes.
And okay, I’m getting it. And this goes back to the child. This goes back to the time because it child always had that essence, that, that was more aligned with the mind, the soul consciousness, the multi-dimensional aspect. And in the book and the book that it’s not, once you unveil and it’s important, we unveiled those childhood conditioning and what we’ve hidden or locked away or pushed out the door.
We begin to open this lack of pattern, a flower that begins to open and what we are, what is left behind there is gone is the essence that you are. And that essence is your innocence. It’s what they have told me that they’re not a wounded child. They have a defined spot. That’s really beautiful.
Zette Harbour: the idea of that divine spark ever, truly being able to be harmed is isn’t something that we think, but we’re mistaken in our
Radavie Riom: thought or yes. And that is why they are. So every information that I messaged from them was from a really one word that’s coming to me is like a bleeding heart. They really.
Want to express an expose and be in the world, but their current, because we’ll live in from the believer.
Zette Harbour: And it’s those beliefs. And for me, I have, I’m about almost 30 years as a traditional storyteller and I love folklore. I think it’s just so powerful and captures so much in the human experience.
So when I hear stories from clients or friends or family, or even myself, I hear that these epic themes of human experience and. When you talk about beliefs, to me, those are those stories that we’ve agreed, we would carry about ourselves, right?
Radavie Riom: And those
Zette Harbour: stories can either, chain us to the darkest, deepest,
Radavie Riom: coldest cave at the
Zette Harbour: bottom of the ocean, or they can watch us to the
Radavie Riom: stratosphere.
And to me, the most beautiful story is when you have moved from sorrow to joy it’s cause we’re here. We either the soul, I here to grow and evolve and to experience, grow and evolve. And when we do that, we have less judgment. Less different with stop looking at the differences between us and others.
And we start to feel the similarity and that similarity doesn’t come from a physical form is, comes from the heart space that we connect with someone else. And that is so beautiful.
Zette Harbour: Yeah. And that’s where that recognition that we are all divine sparks. And I love the way you say it. Tell me and listeners how you see every one of us has a divine spark, how we’re connected.
Radavie Riom: So the divine spark is from the one flame of the divine consider. It’s the essence of Warsaw. It’s a very essence of ourselves, we have come in with things to work through and to work out and to become much wiser from the experiences because that’s what happens. The more we go through this experience experiences.
Wisdom. We’re places the pain, that’s just what it is. And don’t, we all want to be wise. Don’t we all want to have this knowingness to come through us more than for my thoughts when I think this is right then I think, and knowingness that comes through us. So the divine spark is really. The essence of full-year on once we get to that spot, we spike it.
Just thinking there’s something I wasn’t the kitchen. And they were downloading and getting a download and run to my office and I’ve got to get the book to write. I don’t want to share that with you. I would say this space and this has got to be part of my book.
I don’t know. Yeah.
I may have to put it out there trying to say, oh, can we
always speak? And I was speaking about the book and to myself, because I’m always talking to someone here. Alright. So whatever I said, it said. I thought you would never ask. Yes. You turned away from me, but that had a remarkable effect and how much it awakened your understanding on all the height to the past pain and bringing me into fold in your heart.
And so you see, we are aspiring. So as of consciousness that is necessary to be released from the bondage of emotional pay, we have much to Amanda about the spike. Us has a direct link to God, spirit, whatever others choose to call source just as a little. Thank you. How beautiful.
Zette Harbour: It’s exciting to know that there is a book on the way.
I think it’s so much sense that your experiences, your insights, your wisdom, your heart, that what you have come here to share, be available to folks in a way that they can access easily.
Radavie Riom: This is just spot of myself. And I thought if I don’t do it, someone else out there will find it. But. After a while.
I got it. Understand the first foundation was here, the wounded child, like I did for many years. And and the next thing is to show me the next step, the next layer. And that was what it does. That was really healing. What I was really healing was unveiling the divine spot. Yeah.
Zette Harbour: It’s so important that we all tell the story of this power and beauty in the core of who we are in our own particular language, in our own with our own flavor, own energetic sort of imprint, because there’s so many different people out in the world, and we don’t know who needs to hear it in the way that you very specifically share it, as opposed to the way someone else might.
I really acknowledge and celebrate that. You’re following that call to share this.
Radavie Riom: I have to, I think when we get the feeling, all of us when most data action, because it can only happen through your movement. It’s not going to happen any other way. And by the may, you said when you were 40 that’s when it started to happen with me too early forward.
The reason I was called to me that piece is about the emotions and what they talked about, how necessary it is to release their emotions and. We have a lot of people have no idea what the value and the wisdom is underneath there. The pain that wants to really lift that. Oh cool. They are there.
It’s just what a beautiful mystery to unfold.
Zette Harbour: it’s all the flavor and texture and a robot that helps us awaken to our nature or these experiences and some flavors. Aren’t very good. And you take, oh, that’s gross. I don’t like that. However, it is still a flavor. And that gives you information about yourself and your experience,
Radavie Riom: something that’s coming to me to really say to the audience. Many times, your men have wanded by someone, a family structure, but consider the possibility that you have come to experience that, to bring you a lot of humility and compassion towards other people. And forgiveness is why the pickers.
Most important thing that we can do to release it, because what is what’s trapped in here is what. Okay. I’m here in the black, in the view of the light. Oh, I
Zette Harbour: love that imagery. Absolutely. I often describe it as, having a whole house inside with the, unlimited number of rooms inside of us.
And each room is a place where we. Our experiences and our stories and some of these rooms, you open the door and there is some furniture blocking the view. And you don’t even know how that furniture got there. Maybe it’s really ugly are more. And you’re thinking, where did that come from? I don’t even like it.
And you probably inherited it right from your fans. So then I invite my clients and myself to to say what do I want to do with that are more, do I want. Move to a different space in the house where it serves some value. Do I want to take it out in the backyard and set it on fire too? I want to put it on the
Radavie Riom: sidewalk with a free sign on it.
You know that what inheritance. It’s really one of those things that we still connect with the ancestors and many times, I, I find when I’m guided for the client, I said this, you’re still, you’re here to heal the past. Your ancestors, your mother’s mind, your mother’s Lantus. Consider how much are you here?
You are here today to support the collective of the past. It’s such an honor, mad, when we continue to live in blame, we’ll never get to see the value of why we’re here and the pain, that movement. Yeah.
Zette Harbour: That’s an important. Emotion to talk about. And it’s really in more of a feeling I learned recently about this distinction between emotions and feelings, emotions are those raw
Radavie Riom: textures
Zette Harbour: and feelings are the things we think, oh yeah.
I think that story means this. And then we feel this about the story and yeah, so we’ll, we can tap into our emotions. Really love ourselves back into wholeness. We do create multi-generational healing in all directions.
Radavie Riom: Absolutely. And and if you’re a parent you’re also supporting your children to
Zette Harbour: yeah.
And that’s the best way to support our children is to really deal with our inner clutter. And I just want to, I don’t know if you can hear my little dog.
Radavie Riom: Is it, that is, I don’t
Zette Harbour: know if it’s coming through, but anyway right now, but so if you hear that’s just him. That’s fine.
Radavie Riom: Citing. He wants to go out your companion. So I have two, one of them she’s very
Zette Harbour: quiet. The other one he’s he says what he wants,
Radavie Riom: but
Zette Harbour: yeah. Yeah. I’ll edit
Radavie Riom: that out.
Zette Harbour: Beautiful.
I am so grateful that you have shared so much of your experience, your awakening and this exciting new book that you have coming out. What, where do you think this book will
Radavie Riom: take your word? I already see him without the future already been shown. I’m going to have, as in workshops, out of it, maybe a specific piece of the book, already being shown.
And really what people to, to get to know. I like here, I had shut my divine spark up because of what I was holding. And here I am, as one who had cleared enough of my veils to be sitting there as a defense in front of them, this is my whole passion to support people to change. So more will come to me about what I’m going to do with.
But it’s not just to go out there. And so a little bit about supporting people through part of the book and, cause the book is going to have a lot of end user. What happens to us? It’s going to help part of a lot of my stuff. What I ended up in the bar in general, what happens is you’re trying to learn what happens in purification.
What happens in when you actually awakened? So it’s a book that is a little bit more than a third dimension of a book. Tell me more about that.
One can only write from where they are. One can only serve someone from where they are. As a child, I am allowed the word God, at four years old, I went to Sunday school and I heard about God and Jesus, but they told me that God was in. And I used to look a lot, whereas Hammond, but I grabbed on to that feeling was so grand for me that God has become a tapestry in my life because I found out that God really wasn’t up there in heaven.
Heaven is here within us when we unveil we think we are. Oh, and believed self. And to awaken to the truth of what is here is not who is here. There’s no who it is or what is here and what is here with a divine spark and the consciousness of. A more heightened frequency of consciousness that, I’m beginning to see things from another level of not my dark look what’s going on in the world is becoming aware of it, but not affected.
So when you get to a more awakened state, There’s less emotions. Now I talked about going through your emotions, which was very necessary, but you go to a place where there is no identification that is having an emotional response to what’s going on out there.
Zette Harbour: Yeah, I do understand that. It’s that we may have a sensation.
Let’s say I’ve heard something and it’s a story of some loss or sadness. And I can feel that sensation of the grief. However, I don’t take it further and create a story about myself in a way that turns that story into a belief that I carry around with me forever. So I feel like what I’m hearing you describe, and let me know if this is true, but you have the sensations of the thing, the raw emotion of it, but it doesn’t get clogged up inside of you.
Yeah, it’s able to move through you more freely. So you experienced the connection to the other, to the experience, to the world, to the person you’re hearing about, but you don’t take it on as some part of your inner
Radavie Riom: furniture. No. And I, as you were talking, I’m being shown does consider a child learning to walk, follow that you really get hurt.
Probably break your arm. That’s what it is about. Moving through the pain and identifying with, oh my God, I don’t know how to do it. And then we continue to grow up. But the important thing is to let go the memory of when you felt, maybe somebody told you were stupid because you made a mistake.
That wasn’t about you. That was about them because I wear there and then come, the unkind to me, it’s a constant unveiling of the identification and the separate self. Like you were talking about knocking out all these pieces out there did separate selves. We have to really get to that point of recognizing them separate.
So we know when those separate selves come up because we have an attitude or we have a reaction and we can stop and say, okay, what’s going on in me? Why I had a reaction to that? And this is such a beautiful way for self reflection. I always say I have to be naked in front of myself in my eye. I’m not leaving anything covered over.
And there was a time when I was extremely sensitive to lean tone. Something that I thought was a judgment. No. I want to know, when I want to know, because I am always looking for correction. So we get to a place where less identification is there and you knew will. When Les identification, what does that mean?
I have less than an opinion about what is happening, less reaction and okay. And so we’re going through a pandemic because now we’re at 2021. How are we looking at that? Are we sinking into th the trauma of. Oh, are we looking back and say there could be another higher reason for it? It doesn’t mean I don’t have a lot of compassion for people who have been in physical pain and touches my heart.
But here is another piece then I see it’s bringing up people’s stuff that was latent inside. And all the fear and the chaos that people are going through. It’s not just about that. It’s the opportunity that has caused. So everything to me is an opportunity. And I always say that nothing bad ever happens to us.
And I know that’s a horrible thing for people to say or what I mean about that. When you, you invited the feeling of it and you work through that and you find the wisdom of why that happened. Oh, there’s something that’s coming to me. And one of the times when I was my internal went away, Stuff. I am, I know emotions.
I don’t want to wait. So I am in, I made a I went to lunch with the partner that I had at that time, and I never forgot my launches right there in front of me. I’m sitting at the chairs like a snapshot and immediately I was shown the golden light around me that the everlasting love was always here. I really want people to know that doesn’t matter what pain you’re going through.
There is low that can never be destroyed. And what love that is that consciousness. Absolutely. And and that. It’s the most confident thing that one, when they’re going to pay love is always here that can never be taken from. That
Zette Harbour: is so beautiful. That’s
Radavie Riom: actually why I named my book love lies
Zette Harbour: beneath because I I learned through my own work and through working with clients that when we see those stories, like you were saying, if it’s stress, fear, or pain, causes that to me, those are invitations to follow a certain pathway.
Radavie Riom: And when we. Yeah. And when we trust that the
Zette Harbour: stress, fear and pain are actually indications they’re allies, then
Radavie Riom: we follow the pathway. And what we find is that
Zette Harbour: somewhere in the center of it love, created the story that ended up being painful for us, but it was just as a way of making sure we found our way back.
Radavie Riom: Absolutely. And that book really resonate with the fee experience and the feeling that I just talked about love is underneath and it’s always there. And now
Zette Harbour: it’s the spark I recognize in you at, when we met on that networking, that zoom meeting. Because I heard you describing the very same thing in different language with different, energy.
Yes. And beautiful. And so that’s, what’s very exciting for me is to share these conversations with others who are telling you. Beautiful story of better. So true. That is really the story of who we truly are. Remembering who we really are. And learning to see that the experiences we have in life, even if they are stressful, fearful, or painful are genuinely allied.
Calling us home to that beautiful to nature.
Radavie Riom: Absolutely. Because if we’re filled with own, everything is fine. Life is good. Life is always good. It’s so wonderful. We don’t have anything we want to change. We never go deeper to unveil fully, really. And so all of those discomfort comes forward to unveil to go deeper.
Let’s say for instance, for me, I can look at that and say, I grew up and I had a mom who loved me fan good and secure and all of that with with my mother and my family. Cause I always felt different. Honestly, Lizzie. I don’t think I ever would be here where I am within my sense of me. I would love her.
Zette Harbour: Yeah, absolutely. I like to think of the oyster and the Pearl that the oyster only makes a Pearl and there’s a piece of grit.
Radavie Riom: Oh, yes. Yes.
Zette Harbour: So we are the oyster and we get to be the Pearl, but not without.
Radavie Riom: That’s why? I am so
Zette Harbour: grateful that you have spent this time with me. It’s just been lovely and just very enriching to have this beautiful conversation. I’d love for you to tell anyone who’s a singer, how
Radavie Riom: they can find you.
All right. So my name is , so it’s severely simply. dot net is my website. And when you go to my website, front page has an invitation for 20 minute complimentary discover guidance. Please take it, click on that. You go to the page where you can fill out whatever it is you want. And it comes back to me to my.
We set up a time to do that and you’d get to see, what my clients have said. They all have had their own different experience. Expressions. I have a lot of testimonials. I haven’t even, haven’t been calling to ask to get me a testimonial because several pages of it and people get an idea.
And there’s something else I do that I even mentioned. And it’s a quantum healing and quantum healing is about working with your shockers on a shark was, is so special. To me is a vortex of light that connects you to source. That’s why the everlasting love is always here. We connecting there’s no disconnection.
So anyway, the vortex is, are connected with your energy bodies. So a lot of times we remember from our subconscious, but unconscious is where most of the stuff is left there as when we’re there though. And those are the keys to really break out of. So when I do quantum healing, I am able to see all the energy bodies they unconscious too.
So to me, I always said, this is very revealing. And as a matter of fact, I have a client in Belgium. Does it speak much. And and so her husband has been there to interpret for her, but I’m really called. I said, look, we don’t have a short session. I’m going to go do some healing for her. And I find, I begin to feel that it’s going to be a much, much better way of working with.
There is nothing there. The only thing that’s there, I, her energy field. Yeah.
Zette Harbour: That’s very exciting. Absolutely. So I thank you for sharing that. So it’s Radavie R a D a V I e.net, right?
Radavie Riom: Yes. Yes. Are you going to put it down to. Yeah, I do include it in the show notes.
And I’m really loving having this conversation with you. It’s my favorite type of conversation when, coming from the depths within.
Yeah to me too. And that’s what I love
Zette Harbour: about this podcast. And having guests is sharing these moments where we’re really coming heart to heart. And a friend of mine in the Netherlands said that they use the phrase belly to belly. And I love that too.
Radavie Riom: Oh. It’s like when I help people, I always have hard to hide, most people there, most people.
To talk on the opposite side and it’s just no,
Zette Harbour: Me too. I learned that many years ago and yeah, it, you have to warn people a little bit with your body language that you’re going
Radavie Riom: that way. Yeah. But somehow I get the feeling, they learned something. Yeah, absolutely.
Zette Harbour: In our hearts communicate in their own way.
In fact, there’s a science that shows that literally can measure the energy field of the heart. It’s 15 feet.
Radavie Riom: Yeah. It’s its own brain. Yeah. Yes.
Zette Harbour: Again, thank you for being here and I am excited to share this with my audience. I’m excited to know, when you do get the title of your book, please let us know. I’ll include that in the show notes, with the leak to the page. And I have been to your website and your story is beautiful and so powerful.
So I encourage folks to take a look at that and really learn about your pathway. And then I did read many of the testimonials and saw the video testimonials from your clients, and it’s just so enriching and heartwarming. To hear them and see them. So I do encourage folks to check back out. It’s really worth it really feeds the heart, nourishes the heart to visit your websites.
So thank you for being here today and I’ll look forward to our next time together.
Radavie Riom: Yes, indeed. Then really enjoyed being here with you and spending time with you and your audience. And I took her. Yes, whenever we are calling
Zette Harbour: a hundred percent.