Illness is just one way that Soul speaks to us. Life and Health Coach, Bethany Larson joins me to talk about how Story, Intuition, and Healing are all interwoven.
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Transcript
Zette Harbour 0:02
Welcome to Love Lies Beneath. I’m Zette Harbour. I’m glad to have you here. Do you feel like stress, fear or pain take up way too much of your energy? Have you wondered if you’ll ever be free of that heaviness of your past? Do you long to feel as good on the inside as your life looks on the outside?
Zette Harbour 0:44
In this podcast, you’ll discover the story of who you really are, and how to set yourself free. Together, we’re going to travel into those wild spaces of our inner landscapes, and dive deeply into the rich soil of our lives, reclaiming Soul through Story and healing our Hearts. My book, Love Lies Beneath is the map. Be sure to subscribe to this podcast so you don’t miss any of this enriching journey. And now, let the adventure begin.
Zette Harbour 1:44
Today, I am here with Bethany Larson, health and life coach, and we are going to talk Story welcome, Bethany, tell us about you.
Bethany Larson 1:54
Thank you Zette. So about me, I am all about health and healing. I’ve grown up with a lot of health issues, I had a birth defect and it kind of sent everything going along that trend of being the health child of the family. And that was my story, of course. And it’s one that I’m still working on getting out of but in little ways, I’ve escaped some of those, you know the offshoots of that story. But really, my feeling in my mission life because of that is to heal other individuals, especially people who are going through chronic illness. But at the same time understanding that all healing, starts within it. And then healing spreads into the other people around you and the earth on the planet we live on.
Bethany Larson 2:42
That’s so beautiful and so true. Have you found that really the only way for us to heal in the world is really to start with ourselves.
Bethany Larson 2:52
I honestly think so. And I was actually just having a conversation with somebody about the topic is about meditation. Actually, when he goes to meditate, he always goes to the internet in order to like figure out how to meditate. It just made me start thinking that the internet was this thing, where we started looking outside of ourselves more for all the all the answers. And I think that it’s gotten us even further away from using our intuition to find those answers, because I really do think they all are all within us. But we’re also reflected and all the people around us too. So I think I always learn from outside of yourself as well, just because of that aspect.
Bethany Larson 3:29
Yeah. So what do you find is one of the biggest challenges you come across with clients that you talk with and work with?
Bethany Larson 3:36
It’s interesting, because honestly, the first thing comes to me is that story, and I think it’s really, I’m actually building an ecourse now, and I want to be able to help people figure out how to use that power within them to create a new story. Because if we are stuck in that story that we keep telling ourselves that we are this person, and that the things that we’re experiencing, keep telling us if we’re experiencing pain, or we’re experiencing what other illness or the mental because, you know, obviously health is on so many different levels. And because I think sometimes what society tells us Oh that pain means there’s something wrong.
Bethany Larson 4:13
But what if we started telling ourselves, pain is something, it’s a messenger. Pain is just trying to tell us like, hey, like I have something to tell you. And if we could just open ourselves up to that idea. Because basically, if you are like oh my gosh, pain, there’s something wrong, push it away, push it away, you’re not getting that message. And if you instead of welcome in say hey, like what do you give here today for like, you know, give it some water, give it love like, you know, if you pretend like you are the host to whatever it is, or the hostess, how would you treat a guest in your home? Wow,
Zette Harbour 4:51
Yeah, that is so powerful. And there’s so much beauty and love in coming at it from that point of view. And it’s just really I can hear so much of like the spaciousness that creates, and when there’s spaciousness, then there’s more room more energy, right, more flow, which it naturally makes sense that that could facilitate the healing, right?
Bethany Larson 5:15
Yes, definitely.
Zette Harbour 5:16
Because when we, when we have pain, and you know, even like you said, it can be, you know, physical, emotional, mental or spiritual, you know, stress, fear or pain. And we, we just say no, right? We’re actually saying, No, there’s no room for you here. So we’re saying Nope, spaces type spaces small. You don’t, there’s no room for you get out. And what that does, right is just create more tension, more friction, more stress, more pain, more fear.
Bethany Larson 5:45
Actually, I have a good example of that. A couple summers ago, I, every once in a while fall into this depressed state. And a couple summers ago, I just felt like I was in it for so long. And there was a point and I don’t know what made me think it but I just decided to, because I was really like, in bed until 5:30pm. And watching Netflix, and I think there just came a point when I was just like, you know, that just plugs a feeling were like, nothing, nothing feels nothing makes you feel anything, you’re just I don’t know, like this lifeless, living thing. And I somehow felt that I just needed to sit at the kitchen table, cross legged and without anything, no phone, no laptop.
Bethany Larson 6:34
And I just was with myself. And I felt all the feelings and it hurt so much, because I was pushing those feelings away before because I didn’t want to feel them. I’m you know, obviously I was still feeling something since I felt horrible. But I just sat with those feelings. And like, you just sit there with your feelings. You don’t push them away. You sit there with your feelings, and you feel it. But I I do remember because it hurts so much. I was like, am I doing the right thing. But I was, because the next morning I woke up, it was almost a complete 180. It was just, I felt I felt better. Obviously, there was still probably a little bit like lagging of it. But that was it. I was like how, like, how powerful was that to just sit with my feelings and feel it like obviously a really hurts, but I accepted it. And I think that was huge.
Zette Harbour 7:25
Yeah, so that that makes me think of this idea that that I talked about too, which is that from my own experience, I feel like the energy I used to hold all of that at arm’s length to like, I envision it as whenever I would have stress, fear or pain, I would like basically shove it out my front door, shut the door as fast as I could and say you’re not getting back in ever. And then what would happen is, you know, I would find out that as the years went by, they became zombies that just sort of prowled around the front yard. And if I ever needed to open the front door, and they’ve tried to, you know, be like, Ah, it’s time we can get in, you know, but the energy it took to keep that door shut ended up I think being greater the energy it took for me to welcome them. And I’m wondering if that’s kind of how you felt in that moment.
Bethany Larson 8:17
That’s really interesting. I love that analogy. Because it makes me think about that idea when you hit rock bottom. And I almost wonder if that rock bottom is that realization that you can’t you just give up the, you know, the need for control, like the controllers to keeping that door closed. And it just makes me think like when there is nothing else that sometimes oftentimes a lot of people will say that’s when my answer came to me. And I don’t know if I would say like, I hit rock bottom, because I know, you know, but we can’t compare each other. So just kidding. Maybe I hit my rock bottom.
Zette Harbour 8:52
And, you know, I think there are probably multiple rock bottoms in life for different aspects of our being right. And yeah, and so you got to that space, it sounds like where the energy it would take to reject all of those feelings was more than the energy it took to sit with them. Even though it was painful, the pain was easier than continuing to hold them at bay because it was sounded like it was really debilitating you.
Bethany Larson 9:22
And it’s like I didn’t I think even when I had that feeling like is this the right thing? Am I actually hurting myself more? Like will this just, you know, get me deeper into this feeling I don’t want to be in. I feel like, intuitively I must have felt that. No, I needed to try this because or maybe because I felt like Well, I don’t know what else to do. And this is the only thing that I know.
Zette Harbour 9:44
Oh yeah. 100% and you’re right. It can be really scary to think because, you know when I contracted Lyme disease for the first time. The message I got really early in in my discovery of it was you know, because I was free Working out it was it was seemed like a really, you know, serious diagnosis. And I knew people with chronic Lyme and I knew how debilitating that had been. And I just all this fear was just racing through me. And, you know, I wanted to just, I didn’t know if I was going to dive under the covers and never come back out or just get on the internet and never come out of there, you know, and all those things.
Zette Harbour 10:23
But the there was a voice inside that said, This isn’t a battle, essentially, the tick isn’t your enemy. The disease isn’t your enemy. This is not something for you to fight and conquer, the only thing you can do is to be and to love. And I felt that fear, like, Oh my gosh, if I really listened to that, is it going to just overtake me? What is this mean? The disease just kind of like free reign, am I giving my surrendering my own life? And I like you found a completely different experience, it was incredibly empowering. Because that voice was coming from such a deep place of love. And I think yours sounds like yours was too great. When you were sitting with those feelings and experiencing the pain, how did you take care of yourself while you were going through those that process?
Bethany Larson 11:16
Okay, I don’t even know how many hours I was sitting there. I’m sure it was at least quite a few hours. And you know, I probably took a break to eat during pee when I needed it, you know, drinking water. But I think I also just kind of, I don’t know, I don’t know that I was really meditating. But maybe in a way I was. But just sitting there in silence, not listening to music at all, and having my eyes closed, and just sitting there. And I don’t really remember anything other than that, except that one really questioning what am I? Like, am I doing the wrong thing? But then intuitively being like, No, I think I need to do this and just following intuition.
Zette Harbour 11:57
That’s really powerful to listen to that intuition. And, you know, to hear the voice of fear, because it makes sense to be afraid of that. That’s like very, you know, analytically reasonable. What do you think is for you? What was the difference in those two messages? Like what made you know that the intuition message had more truth to it?
Bethany Larson 12:17
Maybe it’s because I felt it more. And I I’m now more in tune with my intuition and about the feeling versus thinking. And it was probably, even though I didn’t consciously recognize it, it was that thought, which was based in fear, thinking and not feeling. And maybe the feeling somehow without me knowing it consciously. Just one out over the thinking.
Bethany Larson 12:44
So where on your body do you feel like the the other message came from?
Bethany Larson 12:48
From my heart.
Bethany Larson 12:49
It’s interesting, when we tune into these other places in our body.
Bethany Larson 12:53
Yeah, where that gut feeling to like, I feel like it’s, I was gonna say half gut, half heart. But yeah, just something like, you know, in that torso, where I really like, yeah, that’s like, your core and your power.
Zette Harbour 13:04
That’s really powerful. Was that some place you were really used to accessing? Your heart, your solar plexus, your gut?
Bethany Larson 13:12
Not at all. No, no, I’ve been on a journey for years, obviously working to figure things out. But no, it was very much more because I, my bigger thing other than anxiety, I mean, other than other than depression is anxiety. And so I’m very much, you know, probably very much run by the fears that come from my head. So no, it was not normal for me to do that.
Bethany Larson 13:36
Wow. So it was a real turning point. It sounds like, yeah, yeah. And opened up some amazing doors for you. What do you what do you think was made possible after that? That because you followed that intuition?
Bethany Larson 13:47
That’s good, too. You ask amazing questions. I think, once you have an experience like that, there is like this realization that happens. And I think moving forward, when you come across things, you know, and maybe you get to a place where like, I’ve tried everything, you tried everything coming from your thoughts about what’s rational and logical to do. And but then there might be something that’s, what about this, like, this worked for me. And I’ve had that with a lot of different things in my past, I’m like, Oh, well, I used to do this as a child or I had this instance in this story. Well, that worked. So if that worked, then how can I apply that to my life moving forward? And I think, you know, I’m much more intimate with intuition now. And I’m sure that had, you know, a big part playing in that as well as everything else I’m sure learned along the way.
Zette Harbour 14:38
Mm hmm. I have found too and I write about this in the book that the the more I tune in to that voice, that sole voice for you know, that’s just a word I use to describe that deep knowing self, right? The more I do say yes to her, the more I’m able to really engage in communication with her in a less painful way. She doesn’t have to, you know, scream at me so much to get my attention.
Bethany Larson 15:10
Yeah, yeah. Yes.
Zette Harbour 15:12
Tell me more Tell me.
Bethany Larson 15:13
You’re just making me think like I have often felt in my life that the universe is pushing me a lot of times, but it’s usually one I’m not listening to my intuition. And it just seems like I had the one instance where I had a job that moved me out to LA. And was a really, really tough situation because they didn’t find somebody for me to work in my position in New York. And it was a very painful process that I went through. And I at the end of it was so sick with stress that I couldn’t eat for weeks, like it was just hardly eating, no solid food, and I just, I needed to leave. And so I left that job. And you know, then there was a whole slew of things that happened. Like my grandfather died, I was in that first relationship of my life like my roommates, I found out relying too, and it literally just, and my friends to my two best friends were leaving LA.
Bethany Larson 16:14
And I just felt pushed out of LA. And it started me on this whole crazy journey. This is actually about almost exactly three years ago, all of this was happening. And I have ever since then been a nomad. And it’s pushed me into this life. I sold everything I have basically been doing work, trade and all of these other things, and just traveling. And it’s, it’s just been this crazy adventure that I don’t know if I would have gone Oh, no, unless, like I was pushed by the universe. But at the same time, if I really been listening to my intuition, because I was already into mentalism, and I already knew I wanted to start my own business, and I already knew I wanted to go traveling, then maybe I didn’t have to go through so much pain in order to get to where I am now.
Zette Harbour 17:05
100%. ‘Cause Universe, Source, our Soul. She is persistent. And she’ll be she’ll be polite the first time like, psst hey, travel, hey, do this. And when we go, yeah, yeah, I got… I don’t right now. Oh, my gosh, I’ve got this bill. I’ve got this done. I’ve got this thing over there. But, and she goes, Alright, let me make it a little more clear. And so things start to get uncomfortable, right? And then, you know, what is natural is for us to go, Oh, my gosh, this stuff is getting worse. So we focus even harder on that. And if we continue to ignore that intuition, that Soul voice, she has she’ll she’ll get real loud, right? Yeah, yeah, she does. Yes, she gets real loud. And in your case, it sounds like she used multiple avenues to make it so uncomfortable for you that you had no choice but to fulfill your destiny.
Bethany Larson 18:04
Right? Yeah. Yeah. And I think sometimes I think that’s kind of been just like the theme that I see in my life, because I’ll have fear about something. And then I’ll be like, never, I’ll never do this. And then it’s placed right in front of me. And I just like, darn it. And it’s like, it’s a pattern now isn’t like, Oh, yeah, it’s time to face the fear. But I’ve realized after going through all of these fears, that there’s such beauty on the other side, and I think just we talked a little bit before when we first spoke about my anxiety and how much I’ve changed. And I think actually, I’m just kind of feeling this, I feel like my anxiety
Bethany Larson 18:43
Actually, it’s back to the old thing where I feel like people have really come to terms with the thing that they struggled with. They’re grateful for it. And I’m now realizing like, I’ll be grateful for my anxiety, because it’s made me the person who I am. And it’s brought me to all these things, that if somebody didn’t really have, like, such strong anxiety, they wouldn’t have been pushed to go on the other side of it. And I’ve been, you know, become a part of this world, or I thought I was gonna live with my parents my whole entire life. And now I have traveled the world and and all these crazy things that my family, they’re still, you know, most of them are back in Minnesota like, and it’s just, it’s crazy.
Bethany Larson 19:25
I had a friend who knew me when I like had so much anxiety growing up in middle school. And she’s just like, you know, she was a little bit more adventurous and everything. She lives in Taiwan now. And I went to Taiwan and visited her. And she’s like, Bethany is just crazy to think back However, many years ago that was and for like, imagine those little girls that we weren’t to see who we are now in everything that we’ve done. How crazy is that? But the thing I really like to think about is what about the future self? You know, and how how would they like, you know, the me realizing that the future self is probably just as far into the craziness that my life is going to be an exciting craziness that it will be as, as it is from however long ago, you know, not chronologically or whatever, and, but I just it really makes me think like, wow, I am an amazing person I’ve done amazing things I was amazing back then I’m amazing now and the future me will be amazing. So I think that really helps cuz self worth and feeling that you’re enough really comes into play a lot with, you know, mental health issues and all of these things.
Zette Harbour 20:33
Yeah, it’s really powerful when we are from truly from our core in our heart and our gut able to say, Wow, it’s amazing that all of that was in my life. And I get that I am where I am, I’m who I am, I am why I am, exactly because of all of those people.
Bethany Larson 20:54
Seeing the analogy between a garden and your life. And you know, pulling out the weeds, which is self-care. And self-care isn’t always fun but we still have to do it because we love ourselves. And we love our garden, and we want the flowers and everything to shine. But it also made me start thinking about weeds in a different way too. But, you know, a whole nother thing. But it’s just it’s so interesting. Thinking about life and analysis, because it’s often a lot easier to understand when things can seem so complex.
Zette Harbour 21:22
Oh, absolutely. Yeah, that’s a living metaphor, right gardening. It’s a it’s a three dimensional metaphor for something that we can do within ourselves. And I hear you about the weeds, right? Because you can have a story about weeds. I mean, we all have stories about weeds. So it’s either Oh, weeds are the enemy, kill them, or, you know, weeds are there. They’re something and they have value in and of themselves. They don’t belong right here. But maybe there’s a place for them here or something like that. Is that what you’re talking about?
Bethany Larson 21:54
Yeah, yeah, just like their their life too. And it just is also at this, I was also finding out that I had parasites maybe had I don’t know anymore, but it also had a different relationship with my parasites, because I found that you know, when you find out you have or have had, and you don’t know if you’ve gotten rid of it, because testing isn’t good enough to tell you, tapeworms and like other other things for different kinds, actually, you’re like, things are living inside of me, like what, but we’ve been told, and I’m sure people have heard this more than parasites being that there’s bacteria inside of you. And there’s more bacteria than I forget what it is. And it’s like, Whoa, that’s crazy.
Bethany Larson 22:36
But there’s good bacteria. And anyways, they do other parasites. It’s just there’s so many things about them. But if they’re they don’t, you don’t have to completely get rid of them. It’s like candy that if anybody’s ever had candy, that it’s just the candy that’s actually there to help you so that your sugar the blood level. And so they don’t get out of whack. And so you don’t die like the candy does there for a reason. And you don’t ever want to get rid of the candy that completely because otherwise I won’t save you later. So you’re just managing it and getting to the point where it’s not overtaking your life and not, you know hurting you.
Zette Harbour 23:11
Right? You are really connected deeply to the purpose and function, the relationship that you have. Whether it is these bacteria that live in us, I think I’ve heard that it’s 90% of the cells in our body are not us only 10% of the cells. So yeah, what’s a 10? out of 100%? Only 10% is actually human cells. So we are we’re really just vehicles for all of these microbes. Yeah, right. We’re the we’re the ecosystem. And yes, I agree with you even with things like parasites, or, you know, like with the Lyme bacteria, the borrelia. It’s It’s truly a brilliant micro organism, it has consciousness, it has these extraordinary skills that allow it to thrive in environments in my body.
Zette Harbour 24:01
And when I was able to stop seeing it as the enemy that I should just, you know, kill, kill kill. When I saw it, I learned about it. And I actually really started to admire how extraordinary and could communicate with it and say, You know what, I see you, I see you in me, I embrace you, I appreciate you. I love you. I think you’re amazing. I would invite them to become me, I’d say Hey, why don’t you just turn into me? You know, to transform so when we shift in that relationship that we are choosing to have it’s extraordinary what is possible, right?
Bethany Larson 24:39
Yeah, that word choose right there is so important that even if you’re not spiritual or whatever, and I am more spiritual, and you don’t need to associate it this way, but a lot of people will feel like you know, you chose this life before you came here. But even like, you know, it might be more of a subconscious choosing whatever you understand that makes sense for you with the idea of choosing, choosing means that you’ve chosen this, and you are going to play out whatever story that means. But you can also change that story by the way you perceive what’s going on.
Bethany Larson 25:12
And I just I love that idea back to that like storytelling thing that you can be happy with parasites, are you going to be a war with parasites like, you know, curious instead of like, Oh my gosh, I don’t know, like pushing it away. There was a term that I’ve learned about on hooking that before you can get rid of something like you might be trying to run away from something. But if it’s hooked in you, it’s coming with, you know, and you have to say, Oh, I acknowledge it. I always hear like, what do you need, so that you can let go of me? And then you can go along your way?
Zette Harbour 25:46
Yeah, that’s beautiful. Thank you for sharing that. That’s a great image. And also, there’s a lot that changes in your physiology, right, when you are coming from a more peaceful, embracing sort of place, right?
Bethany Larson 26:00
Yeah, yeah, definitely anything idea that? Let me just start getting curious about what this is here to teach me. Why have I had all of these health issues in my life? And what, you know, what are they here to tell me? Because obviously, they’re still here, because I haven’t acknowledged them. So I think the thing is, it’s funny, because like, I have known this for a while now. And you know, there are things that I have, you know, gone through and said goodbye to, but there’s all these other things that still have their hook in me. And it’s really funny, because I’m like, why if I know this, and if you’ve ever listened to Bob Proctor, he talks about the knowing doing gap.
Bethany Larson 26:40
And I know, but why am I not doing it? And I think for me something that I’ve thought, obviously, this is something explaining why I’m not. And maybe that’s not what I should be focused on. But I feel that if I feel like I know this, in my heart, I think there’s like this doubt about my intuition. But now that I’ve seen my intuition act so many times, I’m like, Okay, well, maybe it’s time to start listening. And, you know, we were talking about before, when you’re just so busy and into things, and you’re not listening your intuition. No, no, no, no, I don’t have time. Maybe it’s time to just take a vacation with yourself. And maybe it’s just back to that idea, sitting at the kitchen table with yourself, and figuring out what you need, and just really thinking into, and maybe it’s not thinking maybe it’s feeling into the emotions and like, what are they there? You know, to tell you?
Bethany Larson 27:36
Yeah, I think that’s such a great point, you know, because thinking into them, all we do, I think is make them worse, right? Feeling into them and allowing the grief to pass through, you know, because grief is a normal human experience. In fact, we have physiological systems that allow us to grieve. What our body isn’t set up for is the suppression of grief, the suppression of fear, the suppression of pain. When we do that, we actually are creating harm to our physiology.
Bethany Larson 28:11
Yeah, yeah. I feel that actually. Because I, for so long told myself this story that I don’t cry, I realized there was this thing when I was young, my mom told me that if I cried so much, that I would get sick, and I had a phobia of getting sick. So I’m like, Oh, you don’t cry. Don’t Don’t let that happen. And it was so funny, because I was actually during that year where I’m kicked out of LA that my friend, actually, he was going to therapy. And he said something that his therapist said, told me about how it’s good to cry. And I’m like, No, it’s not. And I was really sold that believe that, like, I wasn’t supposed to show my emotions. And that it had nothing to do with health. Because at that point, I was all into health. And I had no idea that the importance of your emotions in healing a physical thing. And, you know, I have like an issue with my throat. And, you know, maybe maybe that has something to do with like that feeling you have when you’re holding back those tears, especially, you know, if you’re at a funeral or something, you know what I’m talking about?
Bethany Larson 29:18
Yeah, yes, you’re absolutely right. And it’s so interesting that that’s also the throat chakra, right? So energetically, you know, it all gets stopped, right there a number of these things that are perhaps feel negative, right or, or have the appearance of negativity, negativeness or health issues, you know, that they’re still there despite your your consciousness, right. And I think of it as if I’m lost in the woods, and there are lights on a path, I’m going to follow those lights to get me home, right. And I think of my own stress, fear and pain as the lights on the path.
Bethany Larson 29:56
That’s beautiful.
Zette Harbour 29:58
And so there are reasons They’re still there in at least for me, I feel that anything that is still stressful, fearful or painful. It’s because it’s wanting me to continue to go in that direction. Yeah. And it’s a light.
Bethany Larson 30:13
Yeah. Instead of going off the path because you think it’s, I don’t know why your that your toe is gonna catch or something, you know, nice reliable, no. Beautiful, right?
Zette Harbour 30:24
So it’s inviting you. It’s inviting me. It’s inviting each of us not to run from the stress for your pain, but to say, Okay, I’m going to keep moving toward you. I’m going to keep saying yes to you. I keep showing up for you because they show up for us.
Bethany Larson 30:39
Yes. Yeah. Pay them the same respect.
Zette Harbour 30:42
Oh, I like that. That’s great way to look at it.
Bethany Larson 30:46
Well, this is fantastic. How can people reach you?
Bethany Larson 30:49
Oh, yeah. Um, so I think the best way to reach me You can find me on Instagram. My Instagram handle is love_myhealth.
Bethany Larson 31:01
Beautiful. Oh, Bethany. I really appreciate you taking the time today.
Bethany Larson 31:05
Yeah, I love this conversation that thank you for inviting me.
Bethany Larson 31:08
Oh, you too. It’s fantastic. And I you have such great connection to story and connecting it to this very, you know, internal expression of who we truly are, and creating deeper relationship with those stories. So, yeah, it’s a real joy to chat with you.
Bethany Larson 31:26
Thank you Zette.
Bethany Larson 31:27
Yeah, thanks. Thanks for being here.
Zette Harbour 31:38
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